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So my latest obsession is Haida design, or Pacific NW Indian designs (the Haida were not the only ones to do this).  For those who are interested, here is a most useful link that outlines the key features in this artform... kind of like a tutorial.  

www.nativeonline.com/twodimens…

If you are interested in this stuff/found the link helpful, please visit :iconlaurax:, check out her awesome Haida Hare design (or even DevArt search: Haida Hare) and thank her, because she was the one who sent me that link.

Happy drawing!

-Canyx
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axcho Featured By Owner Jan 18, 2010
I love formline art. :heart:

Your "tribal" designs have a beautiful flow to them, so I look forward to seeing what you do within the formal constraints of the formline style. I'm curious, though, where you learned to do tribal art. Where does that style come from? Is it a unified style, or is a general term for art that looks like that?

By the way, you should check out ~Xaadaas if you haven't already. He's an actual Haida artist, with some great stuff. ;)
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Canyx Featured By Owner Jan 18, 2010
Hi! Yep, I've stumbled across that artist's gallery before and his art is gorgeous! Haida was and always will be a very beautiful and spiritual art form to me, but as you stated in your Velocirapter piece (which is AWESOME btw! I love the fluid motion of it!) "I know there are a lot of people with strong feelings about outsiders using this art style outside of its traditional context. It is a complicated situation." It's kind of hard to explain... Like even though I don't feel that I'm insulting anyone when I doodle Haida designs, I definitely feel a sort of wall here that I don't feel when I do celtic or tribal. Maybe it's all the rules one needs to follow when doing it? Formal constraints, like you say. Not sure, but it hasn't made me appreciate this art form any less! Unfortunately though, for people like you or anyone else who might be looking forward to Haida designs from me, I have nothing to offer as of now and I can't promise anything in the future. I have not given up on it though!

AS TO TRIBAL... Unlike Haida, I don't think there are any strict guidelines that define tribal. I'm sure tribal forms have roots somewhere, or even from many places such as the Maori designs of New Zealand. Not sure.
These days, the more traditional 'tribal designs' people get on their skin or watnot seem to be defined by very crisp, bold, and sharp lines. Yet I would go as far as calling some stencils 'tribal,' whether they are 'sharp' or not. I guess to answer your question, I'd say it is a general term for this kind of art. OR I might just be horribly misled.

But this is also why I love this style so much! It come without restrictions so it is completely molded to each artist, and each person's approach to this form is SO different. You can make it graceful or cutting, flowing or abrupt. Yet the design is always bold. And if there are any rules in designing tribal I have surely broken them! The way that this style of art is set up, I kind of taught it to myself through pure experimentation. I'm not quite sure but I think it started with me just breaking animals down into shapes and following the natural curves and points that occur on them (like musculature and fur). Somehow it became what it is today, though my style is constantly changing.

Hope this... somewhat answers your question? :]

P.S. Keep up your formline. Maybe it's my lack of experience with the style as opposed to the others, but your designs look genuine to me! (Genuinely beautiful at the very least ; )
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axcho Featured By Owner Jan 23, 2010
Just forgot to mention, my latest designs are genuine formline art (fit all the stylistic rules) though my first, Haida-lisk Incubation is not. That one violates several rules, and someday I'd like to redraw it in a more correct style. :)
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axcho Featured By Owner Jan 23, 2010
Yes, this does answer my question, thank you! :D I think I would like to try doing some tribal art myself sometime. I'll start by copying your drawings. ;) I find that copying (by sight, not tracing) helped me a lot when I was first trying to get a feel for formline art, so I imagine it would do the same here.

And yeah, I feel that "wall" too when it comes to formline art. It's not the only reason that I haven't been doing much of it anymore, but it's one of them. For me it's not the rules - my favorite part about this is figuring out how to do things within these very restrictive rules. But it's just the cultural barrier. I mean, I'm not doing more of this because I have plenty of other things to do that are more urgent or important. But I might be making time to do it if I got more encouragement from the people whose advice I might be inclined to take on the matter. Instead, the people who I've encountered are neutral or negative about people like me messing around with this art style (which I can understand) so I'm not particularly motivated to push it.

For example, I could probably make some amount of money by doing this kind of art and selling it. But I wouldn't do that because it would feel wrong and inappropriate in a way that selling some more generic style of art wouldn't. So even though I could spend a lot of time and become very good at formline art, I choose to become good at other things instead. Things that I can actually make money from, like developing computer games. And obscure hobbies that I *am* encouraged to continue, where my progress delights rather than offends people, like Persian ney flute or Aikido.

Anyway, I'll still do formline art. Just not as often. :p Let me know if you end up doing any.
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laurax Featured By Owner Nov 6, 2009
Oh wow, thanks so much! ^^
I'm glad you found the link as helpful as I did! I'll definitely have to get back into drawing Haida again, when I get a break at Uni =P
Good luck, I look forward to seeing the results! xxx
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tribaltyn Featured By Owner Nov 5, 2009
pretty cool that your going all the way back to this original form of tribal

good luck broadening your horizons ^^
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Rattlesire Featured By Owner Nov 5, 2009  Professional Digital Artist
Oh, you like those designs?


Well jeez. Shoulda told me sooner!

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Then check out Tarheki :D
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Rattlesire Featured By Owner Nov 5, 2009  Professional Digital Artist
Hm. Those didnt work D8<.

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Try that XD.
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Canyx Featured By Owner Nov 5, 2009
WOw, she's a truly amazing artist! Thanks for sharing her link!
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Rattlesire Featured By Owner Nov 5, 2009  Professional Digital Artist
Your welcome :3
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